Multitasking - Effective or Not?

In this episode of Life’s Bumps and Bruises, Luke and Joanne discuss whether or not multitasking is effective. So many people have a belief that they are great at multitasking, but are they really?  Is there a better way to ensure we meet deadlines that don’t make us feel overwhelmed?

Luke and Joanne also discuss the different approaches that men and women take with multitasking using their own experiences. 

🎙 This episode is for you if you’re into:

• Getting the most out of your time
• Understand the difference between men and women with multitasking
• Understanding multitasking and prioritising 
• Recognising what a massive driver for burnout is 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:04

Life's full of bumps and bruises. I'm Luke Lee Tet, counsellor and life coach, joined by Joanne Lee Tet, mum and HR professional living what seems to be a never-ending roller coaster.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Each week we discuss strategies to navigate the bumpy road of life.

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With practical approaches to difficult life moments, we bring real life options to the challenges everyday people face.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Welcome to Life's Bumps and Bruises.

SPEAKER_03 0:32

We're glad you're here. Show where we discuss everything that happens in life, including the mental health challenges that we can all face. And I'm seated across from my wife, Joanne. How are you, Joe?

SPEAKER_01 0:56

I'm great, thanks. It's great to be back. Haven't been fired yet.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

Haven't been fired yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

Yeah, you haven't been fired.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Yeah, that's that's the honest truth, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:04

If anyone's gonna get fired here, it's me. Yeah. For sure. So uh last last uh episode, we introduced Joe as our new host. Joel had moved on. Um so Joe, how was it after you did your first show?

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Oh roses, like you know, nothing nothing's really changed.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Nothing really changed.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

No, I mean a few people that we know have have said something about you know, me and my first podcast and making my podcast abuse and thought that it was actually pretty good, pretty funny between the two of us. And I'm like, that's just how we are normally. There's it's pretty unscripted.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

So here's a here's a here's a bit of an insight into our marriage.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

So into our marriage. Um, so how did you feel about it? I mean, I know that uh it can be a little daunting when you've got a camera stuck in your face. How did you feel about doing the show? We haven't actually spoken about it. We initially recorded it, didn't we? And we just went on our own separate.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Went our own separate ways and just kept doing the daily stuff. Um, yeah, no, and no different. I mean, I know um you were you were giving me some prods about you know you have to speak into the microphone, stop turning your head and things like that. Um, but you know, I just see it as just it's just a conversation, it's just normal conversation and yeah, no different to how we usually are.

SPEAKER_03 2:25

I wish we we should probably record these on video because old mate over here, Joanne, she's lounging around on this couch, living a living a life over here.

SPEAKER_01 2:33

I have to get out of my trackies and put a shirt on.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

So all in all went well then.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Yeah, I thought I thought it was fine.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Yeah, that's good. That's good. How's your week been?

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Um Well, no different to usual.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

No different to usual?

SPEAKER_01 2:51

No, I mean, you know, work's all work and that's crazy. And but you know, coming into the Easter break, it's actually looking forward to having a few days off. Um and switching off, switching off the brain a bit.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

So Yeah, yeah. And it's it's harder too, because the there's so much happening in the world right now with fuel being the way it is and wars and all that sort of stuff. It could be an opportunity where we've been forced to work at home anyway.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Oh, so I don't see that as a bad opportunity. Uh for me, it's it's probably something that I would want to do more of. Um, but you know, uh, I I don't even want to think about what's coming next, really. So, you know, I just take one day at a time. And if that's the direction, that's the direction.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

I think uh through the clients that I've seen, there's been a few people that are a bit unsure about what's gonna happen, but they don't want to admit to it, if that makes sense. Like they know that something is gonna, you know, that that war over in the Middle East is gonna affect us in some way, right? Whether it's fuel, whether it's living crisis or all that sort of stuff, it's gonna affect us in some way. And they're they're kind of like they know it. You can see that it's on the tip of their tongue. They start to talk about it and they veer away from it. It's almost like, oh, that's a tomorrow problem.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Well, it kind of is. I mean, it's out of your control. It's not like you can change it. You can't do anything to actually change what's happening. You can't change anything about how you're gonna stretch your pay packet further. You know, maybe cutting out, driving to work and working from home, you save some fuel. But you know what? I'm actually gonna pay more at the groceries because the the fuel is going to impact those prices. So, you know, it's I see it as control what you can control and try not to worry too much about it. And I know that's really, it's really easy to say and not so hard to do, and really hard to do. Um, but you know, if you start sweating these things, you know, you just go down a rabbit hole because you really just you can't change it.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

And if you are listening to this and and you are feeling a little bit anxious or a little bit off, not sure how to manage yourself or manage your family through this time, please reach out. You know, it even if it's something you guys want to discuss, want us to discuss on this podcast, we can talk about how you can manage this this time. Um because it's not easy, you know, it's not it's not easy at the best of times, you know. Um, and having chats about it and working out how we can structure things in a different way. And and I love that I always love this quote, change the way you look at things and the things you look at change from Wayne Dye. You you if we can implement that into your life, change the way you're looking at your issues and your life and your family, then it might have a positive impact in a really dark time, or what could be a dark time. So um, if you are feeling anxious, please reach out. Um, don't do it by yourself, is what I would say.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Yeah, we all we all need someone to talk to. And if you don't have somebody, definitely reach out or you know, find somebody because living in your own head is not a great place to be.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Yeah, and we don't want the the effects of what happened during during the lockdowns of COVID to you know rear its ugly head and uh the people I mean you look at schools, right? Schools are doing this right. Uh, and the covet babies or the covet kids that got locked up for a prolonged period of time, there was like a um a time when kids were sorting themselves out in the yard again, right? They they you had a whole bunch of kids that were anxious and were trying to hide, then you had a whole bunch of kids that were um trying to find out who was who in the school again, and then the behavioral stuff came out, and it was all a lot of negative things that were playing out in the schools. Well, that was the same thing happening in in adults, we just did it differently. And be good to not go through that stuff again. So if that uh if you're feeling lonely or if you're feeling like things are tough, please reach out. Don't do it by yourself. Well, uh, hopefully we've learned enough from COVID lockdowns to know that we can do things differently instead of trying to mop up the mess. Let's not have a mess in the first place. It's the way I see it anyway. So last week, what did we talk about, Joe?

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Well, last week we uh talked about the topic that I brought up was why are teenage boys so dumb? Um, and I actually took quite a bit out of it. I I kind of knew, but didn't really take away previously. But it's really um the insights that you provided me really helped to understand that their brains are still developing and how we do need to remind them. And one of the parents that I referenced last week and in some of the stories that she told me that, you know, don't worry, Joe, my kids are so so dumb. We spoke about this podcast and she goes, Oh, really? I'm gonna have to listen to the podcast now. Go, don't worry, I didn't name you by name. She goes, I still have that problem. He's still dumb. So maybe I can learn something. So that's a shout out to you. Um, so no, I thought it was a really great um topic to talk about.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Yeah, yeah. How are you going with the patience bit?

SPEAKER_01 8:00

Um, not so bad. I mean, I did something dumb myself. So um looking at it, did you just admit to doing something? I did do something, and I'll bring it up a little bit later. Um, but you know, staying patient and giving that direction and constantly reminding. And to me, the reminders are I send him a text, these are the stuff you need to do. Um, so it is written down. Um and I find it a lot easier.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

Interesting. Interesting. So then we also discussed how we as parents need to stay as patient as possible, but also too, how do we manage ourselves inside that? We did go over a little bit too. Um, because that's the biggest part. If we don't take care of ourselves, it's not going to come out well with our kids. Definitely not. No, definitely not. Um got some really great news. So we've changed where we're hosting our podcast. Um, we're using a a platform called uh Buzz Sprout, which allows us to send out and and sign up to many different uh uh podcast platforms. And so now, which is really cool, we've uh we are now on 15 different directories and 15 different platforms. So Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, uh Spotify, iHeartRadio. We also on uh some new ones, uh Podcast Index, Podcast Addict, Pod Chaser, uh Pocket Cast, Listen Notes. Um, we're also on uh player FM, Overcast, Castro, Cast Box, Good Pods, and True Fans. OnlyFans, True Fans, True Fans, True Fans.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Wow, that's an interesting one. Oh, only fans, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:41

Joanne will be on On OnlyFans soon. You watch, yeah, selling a full finder.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

God, there's some things there that I never even heard of. Yeah, it's really interesting.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Yeah, well, it allows us to be in more countries too.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

So right now, uh, I know we've had I think there was like 16 different uh countries we were in. Awesome. Um sharing in, which was fantastic. Uh, we got a few more in the States just recently, which is great. Uh, so thank you everybody who is uh listening in. Please just comment, share, like it all, um, share it to somebody who you think might actually uh enjoy it. Hopefully we're entertaining enough for for people to enjoy, but also to um share it with people who you think we might actually benefit from listening to the information we're talking about. And if you've got a topic, as always, please reach out uh lifespuntsbruises.com at gmail.com. Uh send us a message or even go through our socials and send us a message through there. Um we've had a few this week, which is great.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:43

Um so uh yeah, if you're listening, please share. Um, thank you to all the directories that allow us uh to share our content on their platforms. It's definitely much appreciated. We'd um can't do this without those types of places. Um, we can't share the information unless uh we have platforms to share on. So thank you all for allowing us to share. Um that's great.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Yeah, it's sounds like you've been busy this week.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Let me tell you, I've been busy. Let me tell you.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Yeah, what have you been doing?

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Uh uh on top of all the the clients that I've seen this week, which has been been pretty busy, uh getting the this is a big marketing tool for what what I do in terms of work, uh, and I respect that. And it requires a lot of work. Um, and with the the changes that we've made to our podcast, with the changes with uh uh Joel leaving. Uh Joel did do a lot of social media stuff, um, which I respected a lot. Um now it's kind of left to me because Joe is always sitting around with her feet up walking at her phone.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Well, whatever. Joe's at worker.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

Oh, Joe's at work, yeah. Right, yeah. Um, and uh so there's been a lot of work in the background, website stuff, uh, just general marketing stuff on top of the clients that I've seen, on top of the study that I've been doing. Um, it's been quite significant. So I'm tired. Yeah, I'm buggered. Uh and then on top of that, you got all the sporting stuff that we're doing. Um, with the grand finals on the weekend that got washed out, which was uh disappointing, but it is what it is, you know. I mean, you can't change the weather. No, and you can't move everything around. Um, and then you've got all the training stuff that I do softball-wise, being full on. Um, but it's good. We have a guest that's coming in in the next uh episode or two. Um, hopefully we can record over the Easter break with him. Uh, and we're gonna talk a lot about uh community sport, uh, and then we're gonna tie it into hobbies as well, and how important that is for uh mental health and how important community is for mental health. Um, I think that's gonna be a big one. And he has he has single-handedly pulled together a great team to sport him to build a really great club, sporting club, that has grown exponentially in the last year or two. And I know that he's got some family members inside that community that have, I don't know how well they would be doing without that that club. I think they would be struggling, and uh he's done a fantastic job. So we're gonna get him on here.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Yeah, let's pause that for the intro because that actually sounds like a real good intro and lead into when we have him on.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Yeah, I can read I can duplicate. So copy paste me.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

I don't want to keep hearing you, geez aloof.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

So this week we're gonna discuss uh multitasking, whether it's effective or not. I think it's a big topic that needs to be discussed, especially for my wife, because she thinks she's a great multitasker. But let me give you the hot tip. Uh no. Um, the differences between men and women with multitasking. Um, and the outcome of multitasking, what is is there a better way? Do we always have to do multitasking or is there a different way? We're gonna go into that.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

But first we have but first we're going to unpack that. So before before yeah, before you tell everyone how shit I am at multitasking, um, we're lucky enough to have received feedback from one of our listeners, which is fantastic. And this is this is what we like. Let's start engaging with our listeners. So anybody out there that wants us to um talk about a particular topic, um, please reach out because, you know, just like today, we are going to go through one. So um one of our listeners contacted us and asks us to do an unpack that on money issues between partners. And I felt like we could actually relate to this as well. So the message reads, I like to hear your perspective on why it is that I'm more concerned about finances, and my wife thinks there is a money tree. This is flipped for my mate who doesn't care about money, but his wife does. That good old money tree. We we seem to have that conversation with kids when they always want something, and you know, the the common response is, you know, money doesn't grow on trees. But usually, I mean actually, I don't know how usual it is, I've got no idea. Um, but sometimes in relationships, there's one person that, you know, likes to keep a their finger on the finances and say, can't be that in the magic, can't be that in the budget. And then there's another partner that's out there tapping away, buying whatever they want, um, whenever they want it, and the other one's pulling their hair around. Um, but on the flip side, there's some couples that both are tight and that's great and that fits their lifestyle. So can you unpack that a little bit, Luke?

SPEAKER_03 15:45

Yeah, I can. I'll give it a go.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Because in this relationship, he's the one that likes tapping away. And you know, as soon as there is a little bit of money, he's actually very generous. And I'll shout everyone.

SPEAKER_03 15:55

Oh, it's not that. If we were down at if we were down at the ballpark right now, the boys would be down there going, there's no way Letete shouting, no way.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

I think because Robbo's usually in there first.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Yes, yes, but uh I I would say that there's a motivation behind it all, right? So in our relationship, like you just outlined, uh, I can be a little bit more generous uh than you. You're generally quite on the pulse when it comes to finances. Uh, and I think that that really comes down to the motivations in which we grew up in. So if we're looking at uh if we're looking at uh more of a Mediterranean style family, Greek, Maltese, Italian, that sort of place, we would say, okay, well, they've grown up in a in a time, their their grandparents especially grew up in a time where it was lots of war. They had to stash money. I mean, that they would have how how often have have we heard the story and we've experienced it ourselves, when you've cleaned up after somebody's passed away, you know, an older uh European family, they've grown up, you've gone there, you've you're packing up all their stuff because they've passed away, and you found little stashes of cash all over the place. Yeah, yeah, especially out of the bed, man. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Well, we do that at my parents' place, didn't we?

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Yeah, there was cash everywhere, amongst other things. So um the so they had to that they valued money because they didn't have anything. They had to st literally start from scratch. I mean, I remember the reading uh after World War II, there was uh you know a hundred thousand um suicides a week you know, from from in Europe at the time. That's crazy because they had nothing, they were literally poverty stricken, right? Uh and so then the value of money was different then. Uh I know of a lot of uh Australian people that don't see it that way because they weren't impacted the same. But I also think that there's a there's a different level of uh responsibility. Like I I'm not the most responsible person when it comes to life in general. I generally like to live carefree, yeah, live on on a moment's notice. Me and one of my cousin the other day says to me, Oh, hey, cousin, it's your birthday in the next couple weeks. What are you gonna do for your birthday so I can work out what I'm doing? And I'm like, to be honest, I've got no idea, I didn't even think about it. Okay, but you know what it's gonna happen? It'll come the Thursday before, and I'll be like, yo, you want to come around for a barbecue, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah, and give me the freaking shit because now I have to run around like a headless chuck on freaking get everything.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Because I don't think like that.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

You're freaking on the wing.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

Yeah, I am pretty annoying like that. I can appreciate that. But you know, like money can be very similar like that. What's the motivation? And generally, I can tell you now, it's it's it's emotional, right? So if we're looking at the motivations for you to look after finances, it's about security, right? How do I keep my family secure? Because I see money as a level of security. Where for me, I see a level of security as physical. How do I keep everybody safe? Right? That's how I see security. So it really depends on how you look at it and what the motivating driving force is behind it. So the yes, we might be seen as some people having more of a a uh money grows on tree sort of idea and behavior, but at the same time, I think that there's a level of this where it's like uh shame chasing shiny things um in the moment because I live in the moment. This is what I need now to live in the moment without thinking long term, right? Because it's emotional. Um, what's my motivator for living? Motivator for living is to have a great time at at any time. Yeah, but I don't think too much about uh uh I I'm always having a joke, always, generally at my own expense. Or at my expense, yeah, well 100%. I mean, you if you check out our our Facebook page, you'll see we shared the video of Joanne um taking a swim. Um uh but uh yeah, I I'm I just want to have a good time. How can I do that? I I'm doing it at a moment's notice. If I think about some of the other, because we know this person who sent through that message, uh, we would say, well, that that particular person's quite, I would say, um very straight up and down, right? There there are rules to living. And um, I would also say, you know, and I do apologize, I'm no, I'm not using the name, I'm really struggling to not use this person's name in what I'm saying, but there are rules to the way that they live. There are there are certain criteria that has to be met, there's certain boxes that have to be ticked. And if those things aren't done, I can't spend the money or I can't live. And and so when we come back to, you know, finances, we would say always that there is a motivator driving force that sits behind it all. Most people don't respect it, most people don't understand it, most people don't reflect on it. When what's your driving force, do you reckon, with your motivator?

SPEAKER_01 21:16

My motivator is probably making sure that everybody in my family has got what they need. And it's usually, you know, making sure that there's food on the table is number one. So that's the first priority when it comes to money, making sure everyone is fed, uh, making sure they're clothed, and make sure that they're able to, you know, go to their sports, uh paying for their sports. And usually, and this is another episode, I would put myself last. So if I need a new pair of sneakers, that just keeps getting pushed until we can actually afford or until it becomes something that is a dire need. Um, so when I when I look at um spending money, I structure it to make sure that my family has what they need, and anything that's extra gets saved for. Something else. Um, where I know you approach it differently, and that's okay. But, you know, it's it's something that was, and you you hit the nail on the head. It was something that was instilled in me as a kid. You know, two parents that immigrated to Australia from Malta. Um, they were very tight on money and they were very open about being tight in money. And they lived their whole life like that, even when it got to a stage where they didn't need to worry about money anymore, they were still structured until they passed away and you start cleaning up their house and you realize how much shit they actually had. And you realize, hang on, they weren't as tight as you thought. Like, you know, coming through COVID, everyone's got the toilet paper crisis, and you walk into my mum's place and it was like a trucker just delivered a load of toilet paper or giving it away.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

It was always like that, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Like, my god.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

It didn't matter whether it was COVID or not.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

And you go through the cupboards, and there was, you know, so much food in there that expired years ago. But that's what she was. She was, I need to stock up, I need to buy, I need to make sure my family's fed without realizing that you don't actually need it.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

I remember your dad used to say, Annie, why are we buying that? We've already got it in the cupboard. Oh, but I need a fresh.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

So, you know, that was that was it. She always wants to provide and make sure we had enough to to be able to survive without looking. What do I actually already have that I don't need to get? So, you know, that was been instilled in me. And so I kind of approach money the same way. As uh, am I as strict as they were? Probably not. Um, but yeah, I think that's my motivator.

SPEAKER_03 23:29

Yeah, and I think that's um, yeah, well, you know, it gets passed down, right? I mean, I'm very much like my mom like that when it comes to money, where you're very much like your parents. And so I guess it really comes down from the line. But as an example, like we use the the shoes as an example, right? You're brought up buying new shoes for yourself, yeah. Generally, if something needs to be bought for you, I'm telling you, I'm not asking you, I'm telling you, go and buy it. Yeah, go and get it. You need it, go and get it. I I I I could probably get another two years out of I'm like, Yeah, hang on a second. Your foot, your toes hanging out the side of your shoe, man. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

It's clear walk honey, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

You know, but yeah, you know what I mean. Like, I kind of push you to buy it, and that's really, and this is another there's so many layers to this, right? That that there is the typical mother, mother archaeotype where I'm last, right? And we we could talk about that in another episode, but that mother archetype generally, and in Chinese medicine, they will call it the earth type, where I kind of need to be cared for to be able to buy it. I need to make sure that it's okay to buy it or or to spend money on myself because I need to make sure everybody else is okay first. And that there is more of a care for others, and that's how I show care for others, and that's how I know I feel like I'm caring for others when I put myself last. So, which is a whole nother thing. Joanne, maybe we should do a session just for you, mate.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Yeah, yeah, but so unplug Joe, she's a head case.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

Um I reckon I'm more of a head case than you are.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Yeah, but it does it does come back to it. I mean, you know, I look at Christmas every year for Christmas. We're like, Luke, what do you want? You're like, oh, I don't know, I don't know. Luke, what do you want? I don't know. And it's like, oh, I've got an idea. And then the very next day you've gone and bought it yourself. And it's like Christmas is a week away. I could have just freaking bought it, or I have. I've got it sitting in the cupboard and you've just gone and bought it for yourself because that's what you want right now. Yeah, it freaking gives me the shits.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Yeah, I'm pretty bad at that.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Every year, you I was gonna say you don't learn everything. Maybe maybe I don't learn.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

I do it every year. There have been a few. Some people.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

So, you know, I I do I do think from a money point of view that um you know that the good old money tree, you know, we know that there's no money tree.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

We know it, but it's I think like you like you said, how all brought up and how what we value.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

What was really interesting was uh, was it this week? Or was it last week? I think it was I think it might have been this week, earlier this week. You you looked at my calendar and you're gone, geez, you've got a really light calendar. And you've just bought X, Y, and Z. And I go, yeah, it'll be all right. And you're like, Yeah, but it's really light. Was something like that you said, and I go, Yeah, no, I know. I reckon it was two hours, maybe three hours later, you looked at my calendar again, and you're like, it's full. Like, yeah. And you're like, Did you already have them? No, I just know that I can get it, right? So if I go and do something like that, and I go and buy something for myself or for us, generally it's I don't always buy things that are just solely for me. I generally buy them for then everybody can use them, but they don't because they're lazy. Um but I I buy stuff and then I I buy it because I can cover it, right? Um, and if I can't cover it, I'll find a way. And I have this belief in myself, and this is another thing around money. I have this belief around myself that it'll be okay. I'll work it out, I'll find a way. And I generally do most.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

I don't understand that. I know you don't freaks me out. I get really anxious, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

And then it falls into place, you know? It's almost like a a Lego piece that just goes click and it goes, yeah, we're good to go. I don't know. Just I've always had that belief that I can I can work it out. You know, and there have been tough times, but um I've found a way out of it. It goes against everything you're taught.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Hell yes, it does. So um, do you think that answers?

SPEAKER_03 27:40

I hope so. I hope so. So just remember that when it comes to money, it's always an emotional motivator. And that emotional motivator may not actually be yours and might have been your parents or your grandparents that has been passed down. You know, it's not hereditary, but it kind of looks at it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And and our belief systems are generally created by the people before us. And then when we go and try and change our belief systems, it gets met with a lot of judgment. So then we don't change them because it's just easier to be just like them. So um, yeah, just keep that in mind.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Awesome. Well, great. Let's let's move along to our topic of multitasking. Multitasking effective or not?

SPEAKER_03 28:25

What do you reckon, Joe? Is it effective?

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Oh shit. It depends on on the day you get and it also depends if it's work-related or home related.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Tell me the difference.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Okay. So at work, HR, every day is never the same. I can plan on doing 10 things on my to-do list and not get to any of them because something else comes up that's more of a priority. So in my role, there's lots of things that are on the go. I can't sit there and do one task, start to finish at any one time because sometimes it's I need to do something that I need to wait then for somebody else's input. And then once that input comes up, I pick it back up and put something else that I was working on, the shell. So I'm always going backwards and forwards. And then it also depends if I'm on site with a certain manager. But that then becomes the priority because I've I've got them face to face and I can deal with their issue now. So I feel as though multitasking from a work perspective is a lot better.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Is that multitasking?

SPEAKER_01 29:17

What is it then?

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Such as prioritization.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

Yeah. And and this is the thing, right? Most people talk about multitasking. Oh, yeah, it's a bullshit word. To be honest, come on. You just gave me an example about multitasking when it's prioritizing. You're prioritizing the work that's coming in. That's not multitasking. Yeah, you might have stuff that's on the go that's got to sit on the back burner, but you're not doing two things at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

I can be.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

You're doing two things at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Well, I actually do it really poor. I could be on a room. I could be on a meeting and working away at an email. And if I'm thinking about what I'm writing in the email, I'm not actually listening. I've got no idea what's being said.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

So it looks like the illusion of multiple multitasking.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Yes.

unknown 30:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

How often do you do that? Please say every day.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

No, I don't do it every day. Turn it up.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

I've seen you.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

No, I don't do it every day. I don't do it every day. Okay, but uh a family example. And I know I I start lots of things um and then go and do something else. Um, so the other day I was on the phone to my sister and we're having we're having a chat because we hadn't we hadn't spoken in a while, and I went to make a cup of coffee. So I ground the beans, um, I'm talking to her, um, and before you know it, I'm proffing the milk. And I go to pour it in for my cup, and I realize that it I've ground the beans and I've put the beans straight into the bin.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

Oh. You haven't actually poured them.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

I haven't actually even put it in to get the coffee out into my coffee mug. Because I'm so caught up in what we're talking about that I forgot that step, and that was the most important. Otherwise, now I've just got hot milk. So I realize in that instant, and it's taking me a really long time, I actually can't multitask.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

Hang on, weren't you talking about money before?

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Shut up. Yeah. Shut up.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Wasting coffee, duh.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Um so, but there's, you know, like it shits me when you're on a phone call and you're on the phone, you're on the phone a lot. And some of it's work-related, some of it's software related, some of it's, I don't know, you're jerking yourself off related. I don't know. Oh, jerking yourself off. Um you're on the phone and I need the clothes to be taken off the line or to be hung up on the line, and you're on the phone, and you cannot do the two things at once. You're either on the phone or you're hanging clothes up. 100%. You're not doing both. That gives me the fucking shits. Why? Why why can't you do it at the same time?

SPEAKER_03 31:49

I can't. So I I actually can't. Firstly, I can't. Right? That is I can't because I make sure that when I'm talking to somebody, I'm engaged in what they're talking about. Now you can tell, uh, we both have a friend. Now you be on the phone with this person and they're multitasking because they might be at work, right? They're on the phone to you and they're sending you, they're sending emails or doing something work-wise, right? And they miss three quarts of what you just said, and then you have to repeat it.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

I can't do that. I won't do that to somebody. I can't do it because I don't want to be that dude, and I won't do it because I don't want to miss anything, right? So then you're talking about then the other part of it is, right? Is I won't do it. Right? So I can't do it because that's not who I am. And secondly, I won't do it because I don't want to be that, right? So when you think about it, I I I'm telling you, I won't multitask like that. I can't. If I'm on the phone talking to somebody, even the other day I did the same thing as what you're talking about with coffee, right? I'm on the phone, I've got a client in an hour, hour and a half, or whatever it was. No, 40 minutes, I think it was. I'm like, I'll sneak in a coffee, I'm cooked, but I'm on the phone. And it took me 15 minutes just to work up the courage to put the coffee machine on while I'm on a phone because I can't do it. So I did it, walked away, come back, ground the beans, walked away, so I didn't make all that noise on the on the phone. Then, you know, dampened it, put it in. No, I didn't miss anything in the process, didn't miss anything. And then I only wanted the black one anyway. I didn't want, I didn't froth the milk anyway, so it didn't matter. Uh, clean everything up, I'm drinking the coffee while I'm having the chat on the phone. And even then, I felt dirty that I was doing it, right? Because I didn't want to miss anything. And I worked my ass off, brain-wise, to make sure I was still engaged in the conversation because I know I struggle. But in that time, I needed the coffee, man. Because I'll tell you now, the next two clients that I had that afternoon, there was no way I was gonna give them the best I had if I didn't have something just to pick me up because I wasn't gonna eat dinner until eight o'clock that night.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

So, so in saying that, are you saying that multitasking, you can't do it to the best of your ability. You can't do both tasks at the at the same time at the best of your ability.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

If I can't do something at the best of my ability, I won't do it. That's true. Now you you look at this, right? You used your example of work, right? And we've worked out that you're actually not multitasking. You think you are, but you're not.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

Let's use take that stupid grin off your face, Luke.

SPEAKER_03 34:39

Why is that? Because you know it's true.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

You're wrong. You're wrong.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

Anyway, so let's use the house as an example because it's a really easy one. And most mums would understand this, right? You might start doing something. Yep. Let's say you're starting. Um, let's just say you've got to clean your house. Now I've watched this. I've watched this.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Because we doesn't do two things at once, so he watches me do this.

SPEAKER_03 35:03

Yeah, well, I can't watch and do at the same time, right? To be fair, just for our listeners, I generally clean the house way more than you ever do.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

You're actually doing an old, yeah. So anyway, you're a lot better.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

So let's just see, right? Let's just say you have to clean up different areas of the house. What I've noticed with you is let's just say you know, our daughter's got some stuff out, and you'll pick up that stuff and you go and take it to the room it's got to go. Then you'll be in that room, and then you'll see something in there. So then you'll start cleaning that room. Then you'll come back into the room that you originally started in, and let's just say you've got to wash clothes. So then you'll go and put the clothes on. That's okay because you've got to wait. Yeah. You've got to wait, right? Then you come back, then you start back in the room that you started in again, and then you have to take something from that room into another room. Then you'll clean that room. Then all of a sudden, you think you're multitasking, right? But nothing, nothing gets completed until right at the end, when everything gets completed, all at the end. But really, did it need to be that way? No. You could have just gone, dumped the stuff in that room, and I'll just do room by room. Right? Now here's where it gets real tricky for you is because nothing's finished, you're still seeing all of the stuff that needs to be done. And now my old mate across me gets real angry and she starts getting stressed.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

Oh, it's not like that.

SPEAKER_03 36:37

Now you do, you get stressed because you're seeing all these things that you need to do, right? And then because you get stressed, you get to the end of the day, right? And you do what your mum used to do. She'd sit down and she'd like, Oh, I'm a bladestrach, right? You're cooked, right? And so then you look around, because I've done this too, and I'll watch and I'll go and check the things, and all the little bits and pieces that you've done, most of them are not done all the way to the end. Because you've run out of puff. Now, did you need to uh do all of that all at once? No.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

How moment do you make a step count up?

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Your step count. So now it's about your step count. It's not about getting the job done, it's about the step gear. So do is multitasking effective? I don't think so. You don't think you miss too much? I think that um it uh it it hurts. It hurts the stress levels. You think about burnout, right? I out of the the many people that I've worked in worked with in this office around burnout, I said to them, okay, how the burnout start? Well, I kept getting given all this work. When did you say no? I didn't know I could. Okay, keep going. So then they talk about all this work that they had to do, and then they felt like they had to get five different things done all at the one time. It's not possible. Your brain isn't designed like that. Plus, on top of that, I'm positive that there was a study that came out in the last 10 years around multitasking. I did read it, but I can't remember who did it.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

And well, you weren't actually paying attention then, were you?

SPEAKER_03 38:28

Not everything are retaining my brain, Joe. So because I agreed with it, I didn't really retain it all.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Oh because I'm like, that's why you agree with me a lot. You don't actually retain what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, no. Wrap it up anywhere you like. It's all good. So, um, and then they actually said that the brain doesn't function that way, it can't. And there are things that are always going to get missed. And I know that there are times when you've gone into that cleaning mode, right? And then at the end, you'll go, Oh, forgot to do this thing, right? And you forgot it because it wasn't done systematically. If it was done systematically, you weren't ever going to be doing multitasking in a system. You're just ticking boxes. And if it was done systematically, you would never have missed anything, and you would have done it at a level that you would have been happy with, right? And and that's a different thing. And then on top of that, you wouldn't have been burnt out, you wouldn't have been stressed, you would have been able to see the things that you can and can't uh you can and cannot do inside the time frame that you have, and you could have delegated differently.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Hmm. Tell me more about that.

SPEAKER_03 39:40

Delegating because you don't.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

No, I bloody do. No, yes, I do, don't you? Look at me.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

Yelling at your son is not delegating.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

It's not no, I delegate things to you, and you'll be like, uh, yep, yep. Because you can only do one thing at a time.

SPEAKER_03 39:55

I'll do it when I get to it. Yeah. And that won't necessarily satisfy you because it's not done in the time frame you want it.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

That's you, that's a you problem, by the way. Not me. Because ultimately I'll do it when I can. Or when you want to. And I've recognized when to say yes, when to say no. And I will also prioritize what's going on for me, what's going on for us, what's going on for our family. That's it. And it fits in wherever I can fit it in. I'm okay with that. You're not, but I'm okay with that. That's a you problem.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Oh, it's a you problem. I'm sorry. I wish I could notice smuggy is.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Do you know? Let me just let me break it down for you.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Oh, here we go. From a fundamental standpoint.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Fundamental standpoint, right here, right now. You in conversations like this will always have something to say until you're proven wrong in your mind, and then you're like, Hey, I got nothing to say. Can you hear the crickets? Wait, shh.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

No, I think I I when when originally we were doing a list and I I come up with multitasking, you're like, oh, that's a really good one. And I kind of prove myself wrong when the coffee thing, and I'm like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 41:12

I'm actually surprised you didn't you actually brought that up in this conversation.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Well, you know, it might show my intelligence, or but it actually it actually comes down to the multitasking. So, you know, I I know we have conversations at work about women multitasking and women, women can multitask and men can't. And when I said I said to one of the ladies at work that Luke, you know, he said that I'm really shit at multitasking. And she's like, oh, that's that's a really bad thing for him to say. And I'm like, oh, actually, he's kind of right. Um, and so we got into a conversation about it, and they're just as bad as I am.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

They're just as bad as I am.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

You're human, you're not a robot.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Yeah. And look, I've got no doubt that there's probably people out there that can do it. Um, and they've probably trained themselves to do it. And they they like when you said when I would be cleaning and I go off and to the next shiny thing, there are a lot of people that wouldn't do that and a lot more focused than that. Yeah, I would yeah, but I actually also think it's because I don't actually want to do what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Yeah, yeah. Most people don't. But I'd love to see if there was somebody who was doing that, I would love to know what their stress levels are at. I reckon they're off the charts.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:29

I guarantee you. And if we were to break it down, we would probably notice that they're probably not sleeping as well. They're very agitated, they're drinking about 8,000 coffees a day and they're running themselves into the ground. The burnout will be high. I'll put money on it.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

So it comes back to are you actually able to do it? Are you actually fully able to commit to doing it and not forgetting anything in the meantime? Because if you are trying to do two things at once, how can you possibly split your let me tell you this?

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Don't underestimate movement with progress.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 43:05

So if we look at the building industry, it's built on this. I'm telling you now it's built on this. So let's just say we we built this house um and there was lots of uh stalling moments because it was starting through the COVID process and lockdowns and what have you. And then it just stopped, right? And then you call up to Suf IZ, yo, what's going on with a house, man? What are you all doing? What are you waiting for? And then they go, Oh, yeah, no, somebody will be there tomorrow. Now I've worked in the building industry, so I've seen this happen and I've I've been guilty of it myself. And then somebody will show up and then you'll see a car out there. And you're like, oh, cool, somebody's working on the house, but nothing's getting done. Like I tell you now, it'll be the smallest little bit. They'll be there for an hour. Yeah, cool. Somebody was there today, they've just done XYZ, oh yeah, beautiful noise. And it satisfies you, right? That's not progress, that's just movement, right? Because The builder knows that if someone shows up, a trading shows up at the house, the owner is going to be happy.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

Yeah, you've satisfied.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

No matter what happens, right? You're satisfied. That's it. And that's it's it's jargon. So when we look at um multitasking, there's a lot of movement, but is there a lot of progress? And if you're not getting the progress, then don't do it. Right? Prioritize. I'm gonna go back to this a lot throughout everything that we talk about because this here is a massive thing. Multitasking, why are you doing it in the first place? What's the motivator behind multitasking? I can tell you now it's generally an emotion, it's actually always an emotion. A feeling, a feeling that I'm either going to try and avoid or I'm gonna try and run towards, which one isn't, right? If I'm multitasking, I might multitask because if I multitask at work, the feeling that I'm running towards is acknowledgement for all the things that I'm doing, right? And if I do more of those things, then I give the illusion that I'm doing all this work because of all this movement, but fuck all progress. And then my boss is gonna come over and pat me on the back and say, Hey, you're doing a great job. Here's a bonus. How many times have we seen that? And then that person gets elevated into management and can't manage for shit, and everything falls apart. So there is a whole lot of movement, but not enough progress because I'm looking at I'm looking for this feeling, right? Then there's a whole lot of people that if I'm multitasking, right, I'm trying to avoid talking to other people. Well, I've had that before where I've worked with somebody, if I'm working all this time, then I don't have time for you, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:46

Yeah, that's an actual interesting way to look at it.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

So so what and they're just two examples, right? So, what is the feeling that I'm trying to avoid or the feeling that I'm trying to run towards? And how is that being impacted through my multitasking?

SPEAKER_01 46:01

So if I'm multitasking at home, I'm trying to avoid talking to you.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Is that what you're that we only only you know the answer to that? Oh hey, I'm okay with that. And you know what? The the other part of it uh multitasking is some people will do it out of protest, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:25

Because look how much I've got to do.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Yeah, look how much I've got to do. I'm pissed off that you've given me all this work. Cool, then then they throw tantrums, they run around and they do all this stuff, still no progress.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

And you're not helping me.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

And then such an asshole, you're not helping me. Look how busy I am.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

How often do you hear that about people talking about their bosses, their managers, their CEOs, whatever. Their spouse. Hey, yay, turn it up, turn it up. Actually, you know what? Yeah, let's have this conversation. So you no, no, no, oh, yeah, yeah. Now, now now yeah, we can tell. Yeah, yeah. You throw more mud at our son than you do me, so that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Um I wasn't even talking about him.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

Anyway, uh, but anyway, so yeah, the the um yeah, they protest. They protest. Uh, we we we would see that in a lot in relationships. So at home, I might protest. I might protest because um there's all this stuff that needs to be done, and you don't look like or I don't feel like you are gonna help me or you are gonna do these things. So I'm gonna go and do it all, right? At a protest, I'm gonna be shitty, I'm gonna be pissed off, I'm gonna make your life fucking hell while I'm doing it, right? And then the other partner, which is generally a man, the other partner is sitting there going, hmm, they're doing a lot of work, or you look pissed off, or I'm staying away from you.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

And then it does, and then they don't get to support anyway.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:02

So does multitasking work out of protest? No, it doesn't. There's still no progress. All the progress is going into how you feel shitty and how you're pissed off.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

So we should just be asking them to do something.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Yeah, it dumbs.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Comes back to your dumb teenage kid where you're giving them a list. Hey, give me help with ABC.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

Hey, and and we have to understand that that person's only going to help when they can. So, hey, when you have time, can you just give me a hand with this thing? Because and you don't have to give them a reason for it. You don't have to sit there and play the sob story like we see a lot of mums, especially European mums, because they love, they love guild tripping a shit.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

You realize you married one, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

So then they go, hey, can you help me with this thing? Because I've got to do da-da-da-da-da-da. And they list this massive list. So can you help me? Now you feel sorry for me, guild trip the shit out of me. Okay, cool. I'm gonna help you. I would help you anyway. So um, yeah, without guild tripping, probably don't do that. Um, yeah, protest is a big one. And um we also have to think about the other areas of of multitasking and how successful is it. I think that when it comes to success, especially in a work sense, I think you become more successful when you have boundaries. And it's more about what you say no to than what you say yes to. And if I if if we're in a business, right, we're working away, there's always going to be a progression somewhere, right? And is that progression going to be into management? And management is always gonna be about what I say no to, not what I say yes to. Because if I I know as a manager, if I'm managing people, uh if I tell them we've got to do all these things, they're gonna get overloaded. Right. But if I say no to these things, all these different streams of things, and I only focus on these one areas, we're gonna smash that area, right? Now, if I look at work and disseminating work, if I give 18 different things to my son, five things to my wife, two things to my daughter, who's gonna do them the best, right? And it ain't gonna be my son, who's got 18 different things, because his mind's split between the 18 different things. You're gonna forget 17 of them, but right.

SPEAKER_01 50:39

Can you write them down?

SPEAKER_03 50:41

But still, is his mind's gonna be split between them all? So we have to be mindful of overloading ourselves through what we consider multitasking. So, the answer to the question is multitasking effective or not, I'm gonna say no. That's my stance on it. I really believe that it's not effective. Will it will there be times when I've got to do something and I get it done, but I have to wait for somebody else to do something, like washing clothes, right? Washing clothes is a really good example of this. I might put the load on, but in the time that I've got to wait for that thing, I can go and do three other things while that's waiting. Yeah, but still gonna do those three other things in a systematic order. I'm not gonna do start three different things, not finish one of them, then the then the clothes, uh, the washing machine goes off, and then I've got to go hang them out, and then I come back and go, shit, where was I up to? Right? So narrow down onto one thing, prioritize.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Okay. So let's let's wrap that up into a toolkit.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

Into a toolkit.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Yeah, I'm right.

SPEAKER_03 51:50

Focus on priorities. Always focus on the priority. If I if I think about all the other different things that I've got to do, which one is the priority for me right now? Not all of them can't all be a priority as number one. So give them an order, right? If that's work-wise, what is the priority right now? You mean you gave a really good example of priority. You're saying that you're multitasking, but you're not. You're working ad hoc and working on priority. So if I'm one side, I'm working with the manager, that's my priority right now. Oh, when I'm with the manager, I'm not on the phone while the manager's talking to me, making deals on other issues, and then on my computer responding to emails. That is literally multitasking. But which how effective is that gonna be? Yeah, so which one is the priority? The priority is to put the phone down, close the laptop, I'm with the manager right now, doing that. That that's a perfect example of priority, right? And prioritizing what work is coming in. So always put a priority. I like this idea because this this next idea actually works in lots of different ways. Right. What is one thing that I can do right now that impacts other things? Right. So if I do um, so I know that if I get moving and cleaning up the house, right? I know old mate over here, she's gonna go, oh, he's doing all these things over here. I'll do these little things over here. So he don't have to worry about them, right? So if I start vacuuming, you'll start making sure that the tables and the table and the benches are tidy, so nothing falls on the floor, and then the floor, and then then the table's done. The floor's done, it's all vacuumed, it's cleaned, it's all good. What's one thing that I can do that impacts the greater hole? So when I was painting, it's the same thing. What's one thing we can do right now that makes this place tidy, that gets us to a point where systematically we're knocking things over? We don't leave until that priority's done, right? Um, so yeah, thinking about what is the one thing that can impact another, one thing that leads to another. I think it's the important thing, too. If we're um if we're looking at multitasking and got a whole bunch of jobs, what's one thing that leads to the next thing that leads to the next thing? Don't do A, then do Z, then do D, and then do Y, right? What A, B, C, just put it in that order. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_01 54:32

Yeah, it does. It does. And I think it's really important to remember that. Um, because I will go and start all different things and I'll try and, you know, if I'm cooking dinner, well, I've got a little bit of downside, I'll try and do something else in the meantime and forget that, you know, oh crap, now the pot's boiling over and stuff like that. How often does that happen? That happens all the time. Yeah, ma'am. Yeah, and how I have to clean the mess that I just made. So it gives me the shits. And I want um, I do it for myself.

SPEAKER_03 54:55

Yeah, you do. You do, and you crack it. Um, but I I want to give our listeners permission to give themselves permission, essentially, right? To to recognize that you can only do what you can do with the time you have available to you. Right? That's it's a key thing. And if I don't, if I don't give myself that permission, what progress am I going to make in getting the things I need done? But what progress am I going to make in the rabbit hole of anxiety, stress, and overwhelm? 100% you're moving in that direction. Even though I'm doing a lot of movement over here to get all these things done, I'm still heading in into that space of rabbit hole bullshit. It'll kill you. Yeah. It's not worth it. So give yourself permission to see things and see life and see all of the tasks that I have there with the with the permission to say, I can only do what I can do with the time available to me. We would say the same thing about our parents. Yeah. Right. So, how many kids do we see adults our age go over and over the time? So, you know what? My parents were shit to me. They treated me poorly and all this sort of stuff, right? Without looking at the other side of the corner and saying, what if your parents did the best they could with what they had available to them? Right? It's the same thing. Give yourself permission. It's okay. You're not a robot, you are human, and you can only do what a human can do with two hands, two feet, one brain. It's okay. It's okay. So, yeah, does that answer your questions over here, Jones?

SPEAKER_01 56:40

Thank you very much for your insight.

SPEAKER_03 56:42

You actually thanked me.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

Yep. Don't worry, you'll pay for it later because you just taught me how shit I am and how much I need to delegate to you because I can't do it myself.

SPEAKER_03 56:50

Um, thank you. I'm going out. I'm going out. I'm busy. I've got to have a shop or something. Spending money.

SPEAKER_01 56:56

Spending money. Fucking out. Jesus. I've got to be I've got I've got to treat you like Patrick. Give you an account with a set amount of money in it. And once it's done, it's done.

SPEAKER_03 57:05

You know what? You know what? I'm a pretty woman over here. I make my own money.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

You fucking witch. Oh shit, fucking out. Back to OnlyFans. Anyway. Um, so one achievement and one goal this week. Well turn low-key.

SPEAKER_03 57:23

How did you go with your goal last week?

SPEAKER_01 57:26

My goal last week was to get the kids training.

SPEAKER_03 57:29

How did that go?

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Um, it was a challenge. Um I got them. I got them there. Yep. I did get them there. I worked in the car. Yeah. But I got them there.

SPEAKER_03 57:40

Multitasking while driving? No. Crushed a car, killed kids.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

Well, look, that's a bit extreme. Come on. No. Um, yeah, no, I got them there.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

Cool. Yep. Cool. Um, my what about you?

SPEAKER_01 57:54

You got you you were trying to get some homework done, weren't you?

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Yeah, and I got there.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 57:58

Didn't get everything because there's so much more getting thrown at me. But the deadline parts that I had to get done, I got done. Um, but let me tell you, that stretched me because I absolutely cannot multitask.

SPEAKER_01 58:12

Gee, that's a task. Stretching you, Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 58:14

Yeah, stretching every bit of me.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

It's not the misaccount.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

Yeah, you get so what's one achievement? Well, you got your achievement because you got your thing done.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

Is there an achievement there is a there is an achievement. So um during the week I bought Amelia a milkshake.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

So uh during the week I bought Amelia a milkshake. Um, and she was giving me the shits the whole time around shopping. I want this, I want this, I want this, and you know, it's just like you. She wants everything. No, it doesn't anyway. If it's up to her, she'll be able to.

SPEAKER_03 58:51

Tell a story. You're like Dr. Zeus over here, your stories, mate.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

And so I convinced her that I'll just buy her a milkshake on the way home. So I got her a milkshake on the way home. And I told her she wasn't allowed to drink it in the car. She let him want to spill it in the car. So you can drink it when you get home. So we go home, I park the car, Luke's at the front cleaning the driveway, so I have to parking out on the street, which is not a problem. And I go to pick up her milkshake and the fucking lid comes off. And I was holding it by the lid, you know, stupid mistake, but the lid should have been on properly. And it dropped. And lucky for me, it drops straight back into the cup holder, but it obviously splashed. And fucking milk went everywhere, ice, it had whipped cream, it fucking went everywhere. And I'm just looking at it. And I just sat there. And I sat there and I sat there, I don't know, for quite a few minutes. And I got an email and I go, Can you go inside and get me some wipes? And off she goes, and I'm sitting there going, Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

She was devastated.

SPEAKER_01 59:47

She was devastated because she was good.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

She got out of the car crying. I'm like, Are you okay?

SPEAKER_01 59:50

She's like, Maybe it's not my drink. And I didn't even tell her off. So you know what? Achievement for me was I did not lose my shit. I didn't take it out on her in the past. I would have lost my shit because I've got milk all over my fucking car.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:03

You kind of did take it out on me when you got out of the car.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:05

No, when I talk about you, because you were hosing down the fucking driveway with after we cut the grass. After you cut the grass, and then you're like, you need to move your car. I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll move my car. And before you know it, you're fucking hosing everything into my car. And it's like, for fuck's sake, I told you I'd move it. I'll tell right, I'll just hose down the car. That's when I cracked it over. It wasn't about the milk. No, I too. But um so now every time I drive, I can see where Amelia has wiped my windscreen with the wipes because I haven't wiped it down again. But I'm pretty proud of myself that I didn't lose my shit. And I've got all the milk out of the nooks and crannies.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Winning.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

Thank God for leather seats.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:41

Winning.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

Yeah. Achievement for me because I would have just lost it at anything and everything. Well was falling down. Anyway, that's my achievement. What's my achievement for you? Don't go to goal yet. I haven't thought of one.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

Oh, you haven't thought of a goal. You're as bad as me. Um, so an achievement for me this week. Do I have one? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:06

Oh, for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

I don't know if I have an achievement this week. Actually, I do. I do have an achievement this week. I work with a client who uh was struggling with some stuff. They booked sessions, but they didn't really want to come. And uh and when they got here, I kind of flexed a little bit with some of the stuff that I know in terms of knowledge and understanding about what could be happening for them, especially on a biological and physiological level. And they actually said that was the best session. And I'm like, That's awesome. To be honest with you, I didn't think that this person was gonna come back. Um, because they I don't even know why they booked a session, to be honest. I mean, I know why, but they kind of wanted help, but it was almost like a time when you kind of have to prove yourself, prove your that what you have is valuable for the client. Yeah, and at one point I'm like, what's the point? Then they're not engaging enough. But then I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna have a shot at this.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

That's the find the worst.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

Yeah, yeah. Uh and yeah, the value. So there was like, so I had a shot at it, and they were they were right into the session, and it was fantastic, it was excellent. And so that would probably be a big win for me, um, big achievement for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

Yeah, you got a goal?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:37

A goal. Um soccer goal. I don't think if I'd do one of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

That'd be funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

Oh, I'll miss the ball before my ass. Um a goal. I think a goal this week is for me to do something for me. Um, so I go through phases, and my phases are, you know, I might go for a walk or I might do some painting or you know, whatever that comes up to me. And lately I just haven't been doing anything. I just have not found any motivation to do anything for me. So this week, my goal is to do something for myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

Cool. Do you have any idea what that would be?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

Um, probably back to my painting because it's sitting there and it's in the way, and I need to.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

That painting just looks at us.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

I know it does. It gets moved every time someone goes to dinner because it's just right on top of our placemats, um, it gets moved and put back, moved and put back, moved and put back, and nothing changes. So, you know, last time I did a painting, it took me two years to finish it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

Yeah, it did.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:36

Yeah, because I just put it away and never never got around to it. And if you if you've been a client of Luke's and you've gone into his office, you can actually see two of my paintings on his wall. Um, and I love them, and I'm really shitty that he's put them in here because when he had his office, he took them to his office. And I'm like, they're my favourite paintings. I wanted them in the house. I painted them for me, and he took them. So, anyway, so I need to get back to doing that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:57

Hey, I asked.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:59

How can I say no to that charming face?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

I see, get around it. Get around it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

What's your goal?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:04

It's my money maker.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

Uh whatever. Only fans.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:09

Uh my goal this week. I'm just trying to think about what's coming up.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:14

This is quite it's Easter this week.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:15

It is Easter this week. Oh, I don't know. To be honest, I've kind of just limping through to Easter. Um, it is gonna be a big week. Um, I do have some study that I have to get done, but I don't want to use that again. Um goal this week. Jeez. I should have thought about this before. I actually wrote it in the notes. You're so shit. I didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:41

It's the same thing every time I am.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:43

Anyways, I'm poor at this. I'm poor at this. Hmm. I want to finish up some stuff on my website. I need to freshen that up. Uh give a little bit more information on there. Don't want that done. Um that is definitely a big goal because it is a bit of work in the background to get that done. Um what else? I actually I need to make a decision about what I'm doing for my birthday before I piss everybody off.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

Mainly me. Because it'll be a Joe, can you go shopping and buy this?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:18

Yeah. Yeah. Better do that. Um where's my birthday again?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:23

Oh, for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:26

Is it in two weeks?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:27

We are the 29th. Your birthday is on the 11th.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:31

There you go. Yes, two weeks. Okay. So you better get on to that. Um shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:37

Yeah, I am a bitch. Do you know how old you're turning? No. I should've the same answer every year. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:47

Forty three? It's not.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

Forty four, mate. Born eighty two.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:54

Oh, there you go. Forty four. Jesus. Lucky lucky I remembered. Um Yeah, so that's the the terrible You know what's really hard though. I don't I d I I don't actively think about just me. I'm thinking my brain gets stuck in what I need to do, who I need to do it for.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:17

And that's just an excuse.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:20

Okay. But either way, that's where I stuck that's where I get stuck on that hamster wheel. Um so I never really I never really found it that important to remember my birthday. Funny enough, I never did. Or how old I am. And I'm raped that I'm married to you because you remember all that shit. All that stuff. I'm surprised. I'll guarantee you, you probably remember my my blood type, my weight, my height, my everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:49

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:50

Yeah, bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:51

Nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:52

Not getting any blood from me.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:53

I don't want to anyway, it's diseased. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:57

You gave it to me. All right, maybe we should just leave that there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:02

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:03

Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate you listening to uh husband and wife becoming over here. Um, I hope you got something out of this um episode. Uh, because multitasking can seriously create a massive amount of burnout. Massive amount. Um, so stop doing bur stop doing multitasking, please. It's not good for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:25

Um but if you have any questions, thoughts, topics that you guys want us to um talk about and bicker about, please contact us. How do they contact us, Luke?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:34

Yeah, so the email is lifebumpspruises at gmail.com, or you can find us on social media. Um, and you there should be a place where you can put a comment uh below the episode anyway. Um so put that in there. Um we also have uh a new if you go to BuzzSprout, there should be a place where you can do fair mail. We can put in uh a message that comes directly to us. Um, and we can you can hit us up that way too, which is pretty cool. I found that one out this week. Um, so yeah. Um, thank you guys so much. Um, and I know that Joel has always got a catchphrase into this one, end of every uh episode. See you next Tuesday.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:22

Yeah, but mine is see you when I'm looking at you.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:24

See you when I'm looking at you stole that from me, mate.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

See ya.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:27

Yeah, good on yes. See you guys, take care.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Bye.